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    • CommentAuthorFree MemberPDXRoadie
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    PDXRoadie
    I'm on a very modest weight loss program. Want to go from 160 to 155. According to a nutrition source I've been using, I should limit calories intake to @ 1,700 - 1,900 per day.  What happens on days when I might burn 1,500 - 1,700 calories on a ride. Does that mean I have a calorie intake budget of 3,200 - 3,400 for that one day? Or should I stay within the modest weight loss limit even on days when I ride long and hard?
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    betzgoering
    I eat what I burn. But I also use weight watchers points to manage my food intake and weight.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membermbeels
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2009
     
    mbeels

    I bet that your nutrition source has to make some assumptions about your daily activity, probably based on your BMI and an average activity level.  My take is that you'll need to increase your calories for all those extra calories you're burning in each ride.  If you burn 1500-1700 calories on a ride, and eat less then 2000, I bet you'll feel very weak, bonk, and not have enough strength for daily activities if you keep it up.  You'll probably put your body in starvation mode and your metabolism will drop, making it difficult to lose weight in a sustainable way. 

    Those are some long rides to burn that many calories, I bet if you keep your portions reasonable, you'll still lose weight without having to count calories.

    Maybe some nutrition/diet experts will weigh in.

    Marten

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    wanderingkale
    I am doing more or less the same thing, and had a sports coach friend (who coaches runners mostly) tell me you should eat at least half of what you burn off in addition to your normal daily food intake.  He also told me to try and take in some of that while riding or soon after.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membermamahuhu
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2009
     
    mamahuhu

    I belong to a weight-loss website. It gives you a number of calories each day to allow you to lose a safe amount of weight in a week (usually it`s your maintenance calories less 500 - so you would lose a pound a week).

    That number assumes you aren't exercising. You have to enter both the food you eat and your exercise calories. And here's the rule: you have to eat back your exercise calories so that you get to your (net) "lose" total. For example, if my lose calories for the day are 1200, but I burn 600 in exercise, then I have to eat 1800 calories that day.

    The risk if you don't do that is exactly what the earlier poster said - you will feel weak and your body may go into starvation mode. This leads to frustration and makes it less likely that your weight loss will succeed.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberfrank0013
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2009
     
    frank0013

    I am in a weight loss program sponsored by the Healthcare organization that I work for.Thanksgivng day was my benchmark day to alter to a healthier lifestyle. To date (May 17) I have lost 48 pounds (268 to 220)(safely!).

    Here is what I have learned: To loose weight you must create a calorie defisite each day. This means taking in less calories than the required number for you to maintain your current weight. One pound of fat is equal to 3500 calories. To loose one pound you must burn 3500 calories. Creating a calorie defisite of 500 calories per day will enable you to loose one pound per week(7x500=3500). It is cosnidered by every source that I have seen to be unhealthy to loose more than two pounds per week. Eating lower calorie,healthier foods is the key to maintaining your energy levels. Staying close to your daily intake in calories is the key to keeping your body out of starvation mode.

    Search the internet for more detailed info (healthyliving.com and sparkpeople.com are two good ones).

    In my quest I have also discovered a new passion, Biking. I love it!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberparvulus
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2009
     
    parvulus
    What is this website you speak of? It sounds extremely useful.
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    Hugh-slow-at-37

    "It is cosnidered by every source that I have seen to be unhealthy to loose more than two pounds per week."

     In principle you're right. However I'm guessing most of those sources are talking to people who are inactive; not people who are going out running and cycling to burn off extra calories.

     The two pounds per week thing ... typically men need 2,000 cals per day, women 1,500  to maintain their weight. Using the 3,500 cals per pount of fat, two pounds per week is a drop of 1,000 cals per day meaning they'd be under 1,000 cals per day. Your body needs more than that to do its basic functions.

     Just for the record ... I lost about 10 pounds in March - April reducing body fat from about 16% - 13%. I didn't specifically diet other than to cut out beer and cakes from my daily routine, and eat them perhaps once per week. I still ate around 2,000 cals every day and I'd estimate only 2 pounds of my weight loss was due to calorie restriction, as I typically need about 2,300 per day. The other 8 pounds was lost because I went out playing golf, running and dancing most days which meant I was burning over 3,000 cals per day.

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    Trainbellsway
    I am female, 5'2" and weigh 135.  With the help of a Registered Dietitian I lost 40lbs. about 6 years ago and luckily am able to keep it off.  I run or cross train at least an hour a day.  I say this because my dietitian has me eating 2000 calories a day.  I think with all your exercise, you have to eat more than 1800 calories each day or your body will go into starvation mode and try to burn less calories.
    • CommentAuthorGold Membershipweeb35
    • CommentTimeAug 29th 2009
     
    weeb35
    everydayhealth.com is a great site for recording your food intake... and monitoring activities as well... secret for me is to record everythng... time consuming but it works
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    Hugh-slow-at-37

    Interesting article about the 'myth' of starvation mode versus reduced metabolic rate over here ... http://www.weightwatchers.co.uk/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=29241

     Either way, I think the principle is right and it's mostly semantics.

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    hardbodmiranda
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    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlms1122
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2009
     
    lms1122

    If you are burning that many calories you will need to add more calories in. I recommend recording what you eat for three days. Don't try to limit your calories - try to make healthy choices, eat when you are hungry, and stop eating when you are full. You can go to MyPyramid.gov and use the MyPyramid tracker to check your calorie intake. Do this for 3 days to get an average. If it is close to 2000 I could not cut anything out. If it is closer to 3000, see if you can cut calories back a little without leaving yourself starved. Slow, gradual weight loss has been show to be the most sustainable over and over again (quick fixes don't work), so try to find little ways to cut back calories. If you would like to best results, I recommend you see a Registered Dietitian who specializes in athletes. If you are in the US you can locate a Registered Dietitian specializing in sports here: http://www.scandpg.org/mapsearch.php

    The link on the "starvation myth" is just saying that your metabolism does slow down when you cut calories, but you can still lose weight, just at a slower rate. It is not really debunking any myth - it specially says your metabolism will slow down so your rate of weight loss will be slowed. As we know, the metabolism will picks back up once weight loss is stopped.

    Regardless, when your fat cells shrink (which is what they do with weight loss - they can never go away) they secrete less of a hormone that tells you that you are full (letpin). When you have less of this hormone too quickly you will feel hungrier and "dieting" will be difficult. With my background in nutritional biochemistry and human biology I am still a firm believer than your body is smarter than you and if you restrict calories too much it will compensate by eventually decreasing your metabolic rate in an effort to conserve energy.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberchefrdr
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2009
     
    chefrdr
    don't overthink this to hard. Its simple math, what you eat and what your burn are the equation. If you are training/riding burning lots of calories you will need to balance your intake up higher to recover and be able to maintain higher workloads. You can't take one long ride and overeat for two days. The key is moderation. I ride many rides during the summer of 30 miles and up. That on paper lets me eat 4,000 calories a day. I eat when I'm hungry and to recover. When I ride for hours, I eat while i'm riding to prevent the bonk. Then eat good quality calories, but if I fall off healthy to fast food, now would be the time to ensure its all burned and not stored. I have dropped about 20 pounds over the spring/summer just by being mindful, no dramatic changes. Mypyramid is an excellent tool to help guide you through the intake and excercise math.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbhbrtn
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    bhbrtn

    Don't know about biking but...I up my calories and carbs two days before a long run. Eat on the run and 4:1 Carbs:Protein as soon as I cool-down and stretch. I don't eat all the calories on one day but spread them out and save some for the day after the long run.

     Ben

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    hardbodmiranda

    Thanks guys alot of good reads.

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