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    • CommentAuthorFree MemberSilvia70
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2009
     
    Silvia70

    I have a question for you all and am hoping someone has a good answer for me.

     I am getting a little worried now because I am training for my first marathon in November and I haven't got enough long runs in.

     Today I had to cut off my long run after 12 miles because I was starting to feel terrible cramps in my legs. This has never happened to me before, not even on longer runs. 

    It all started at mile 11 or so and I was trying to run through the pain but one mile later I was literally done, limping back to my car in pain.

     Does anybody have any idea what happened to me and how I can prevent this in the future? I am fine now... no pain, just a little sore.

     Thanks for your answers. 

     

     

     

     

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    rpetreccajr

    Fro your post I take it that you have run longer than 12 miles, so it wasn't fatigue. If the temps weren't sky high (and maybe if they were) it might be a lack of potassium in the blood stream. This is often a factor in cramping. Try upping you potassium intake. Bananas are a good source.

  2.  
    Trainbellsway
    You also may not have taken in enough fluids.  That causes cramping on long runs.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberRichardK
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2009 edited
     
    RichardK

    I am going to go out on a limb here. Before I do let me say that I am neither a sports scientist nor a exercise physiologist but I have been doing some reading tonight between this site and anther triathlon forum on the subject of cramping…apparently a common issue amongst endurance athletes.

     

    So here goes... I think that what has probably happened is that to compensate for low mileage and anxiety you have increased your mileage rapidly and likely also your training intensity in an effort to catch up.

     

     My guy feel [from the articles below you can see it could be a number of factors] is that it is not electrolytes nor hydration that is the issue here. I think you are pushing harder than you are ready for.

     

    To qualify what I am saying please read the following four articles:

     

    http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cramps-part-1-theories-and.html

    http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cramps-part-ii.html

    http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cramp-part-iii.html

    http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cramp-part-iv.html

     

    In addition there is a fantastic thread in which Professor Tim Noakes explains the issue of cramping. You will have to excuse how laborious this thread gets:

     

    http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=2297723;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

     I hope this helps shed some light on a complex and common issue
  3.  
    rpetreccajr
    RichardK - interesting series of articles. Pretty much blows my advice away.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberRichardK
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2009
     
    RichardK

    Hi rpetreccajr,

    I still think your advice is sound. Heck, I regularly take SloMag and the occasional Endurolyte. Its a good insurance policy which rules out electrolytes...

    But it is really interesting to read these, I have a number of friends [self included] who pop a lot of electrolytes but still have problems with cramping...which makes you think that cramping is a Complicated Beast that even the experts struggle to fully understand.

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberSilvia70
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     
    Silvia70

    @RichardK

     

    Thanks for the links to the interesting articles, but you are wrong about my rapid increase of mileage. 

    I have been running the same amount of miles for the past 4 weeks only increasing my long runs 1 mile per week, which isn't much at all like we all know. I am used to running more than 12 miles at a time, so it wasn't fatigue. I actually felt pretty good except for the terrible cramps in my legs.

     

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberRichardK
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2009 edited
     
    RichardK
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    • CommentAuthorFree MemberRichardK
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2009 edited
     
    RichardK

    Hey Silvia70,

    My Apologies, like i said i was going out on a limb, every situation is different so you need to find the answer that best fits.

    Good luck with your training!

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermeyersgm
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2009
     
    meyersgm
    <p>
    I am wondering, what is your overload/recovery cycle like through the week? Also, what percentage are you increasing your total weekly mileage per week?
    </p>
    <p>
    You ratio of long runs to recovery runs during the basebuilding phase should look similar to this:
    </p>
    <p>
            Day: 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
    </p>
    <p>
    Distance: 3  1  1  2  1  2  1
    </p>
    <p>
    This means that your longesthardest run should be 3 times the distance of your easier runs, and all of these runs should be done at an easy 75-80% effort. make sure you are getting your two recovery runs in the two days after your long run. This will help you build endurance and give your muscular and connective tissue adequate recovery.
    </p>
    <p>
    Secondly, you want to make sure you are not exceeding your total weekly mileage by 5%. Increasing beyond this has a greater chance of cramping and injury. If you are keeping your recovery runs the same each week and only increasing your long run, then it seems like you are adhering to this rule, however, make sure you get in those rest days too1
    </p>
    <p>
    Please let me know if I can assist you with any further questions about your training, and good luck in your upcoming race!
    </p>
    <p>
    I am certified long-distance running coach with RRCA, and my information comes from my certification and training under their instruction.
    </p>

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