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    • CommentAuthorFree MemberArducius
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
     
    Arducius

    I know this seems like a very strange question, especially in a sport with such emphasis on having the lightest components etc., but I want to get better at climbing and I figure that if I have to move more weight then I should build strength. Then when it comes to removing the weight, I should perform better.

    I would really rather not cycle with a bag on my back, as I find this results in aching shoulders at the end of a ride. I have heard of weights that attach to the bike frame but I haven't been able to find anywhere that sells them here in the UK.

    Another option is to get another bottle cage and fill a bottle with sand (or something similar?) but I'd rather not risk ruining a bottle by filling it with sand...

    Any suggestions? 

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberMk1Racer
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
     
    Mk1Racer
    Arducius:

    I know this seems like a very strange question, especially in a sport with such emphasis on having the lightest components etc., but I want to get better at climbing and I figure that if I have to move more weight then I should build strength. Then when it comes to removing the weight, I should perform better.

    I would really rather not cycle with a bag on my back, as I find this results in aching shoulders at the end of a ride. I have heard of weights that attach to the bike frame but I haven't been able to find anywhere that sells them here in the UK.

    Another option is to get another bottle cage and fill a bottle with sand (or something similar?) but I'd rather not risk ruining a bottle by filling it with sand...

    Any suggestions? 

     First off, bottles are like what $2?  And if you don't want to use a 'good' bottle, find one of the sports drink bottls that fits a cage, and use that.

     

    Oh, and the way you get better at climbing is to do more climbing.  Try and spin up the hills.  Keep working at it until you can spin up in the next higher gear.  Either that, or get an old, heavy steel bike, and ride that up the hills. 

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberArducius
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
     
    Arducius

    Both good points. I just dont really like to waste anything if I can help it.

    You are right though, I should do more climbing! At the moment I cycle abour 80-90 miles a week, but that's all pretty flat commutes to work and trips into town. I try to fit more rides in when the weather isn't too bad, but there aren't many big hills around here, the closest hill that I find a real challenge is about 20 miles away, I guess I should get over there and climb it a few times in one trip. Its just a case of finding the time!

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermkass
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    mkass

    I echo mk1racer.  You don't need a heavier bike, you need to be in a higher gear.  If you are already riding in your hardest gear, then you need 1 of 3 things: 1. a pro contract, 2. a steeper hill, or 3. a bigger big ring. Tongue out  I ride on a 53/40something (I can't remember, I suck).  I haven't a prayer of climbing Lookout Mountain in Golden, CO on that big ring.

     

    That's easy for me to say, though, because I live near a plethora of hills to climb.  

     

    Good luck! 

     

     

    • CommentAuthorHero!!leehead4
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2008
     
    leehead4

    I agree with mkass and mk1racer. But if you truly want to make your bike heavier here are some options...

    go to a grocery store or a walmart (whatever you have in the UK) and get some really low quality accessories. Or go online and buy some on ebay.

    Buy heavier thicker, wider tires.

    Add a rack on the back.

    etc. 

     

     

     

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    stevecycle

    I found myself thinking about your question during my ride this morning!   My conclusion was that the best way to climb better is not to surprise your body with a lighter bike on the day of the big ride.  The best way to climb better is to train your body to climb.  There are three things you must do to accomplish this:

    1. Train your leg muscles to flush lactic acid more efficiently.  That comes from interval training.  One or two rides a week should be a short climb, 1 minute as hard as you can, then 2 minutes recovery.  Repeat until you puke. Wink  Seriously, 30 minutes of intervals is a lot.
    2. Optimize your pedal stroke.  Pushing down comes automatically, so focus on pulling back at the bottom and kicking over the top.  Ride enough that this becomes natural, not just something you remember on the climb.  Spinning classes are great for this.
    3. Train your body to produce maximum power at minimum heart rate.  You do that through a combination of Heart Zone training and learning to relax while you climb.  Again, Spinning classes have had a big impact on my performance here.
    Steve
  2.  
    endurancebike88

    Steve said it perfectly. On top of that, when the colder weather comes and riding outside gets to be.. difficult because of the cold, hit the gym and hit it hard. 90% weight with low reps during the off season and 30 - 50% weights with high reps during the pre-season. 

    some exercises you can use to train the big climbing muscles are: squats, leg presses, leg extensions and curls. Don't forget to train the parts of your upper body that aid in pulling on the hills with: upright and bent over rows, pull ups, and back extensions. This is the base method that Lance Armstrong's trainers used in the early years of his successes to get his legs ready for the Alps.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberkdillman
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008
     
    kdillman

    these are all great points! And, Steve said it perfectly; focus on technique and you'll see drastic improvements.

    That said, I do "penny-bottle" workouts once a week. I'm a competitive road and cross racer and I have that nagging itch to build that much more muscle. So, on a weekly basis, I load a bottle with pennies (it's about 12 lbs) and hit a local climb. Does this really help? I doubt it, but it motivates me to hit the hill that much faster, and that can't be ignored.

    If you want to add weight to your bike, consider adding rolling weight, i.e. wheels or tires, which will deliver a huge bang. If you have decent wheels, consider buying thicker tires. They will add weight and, as an added bonus, decrease the chance of a flat.

    Another less-costly option is to purchase lead tape and slap strips between the spokes. Golfers use this stuff to weight club heads and it's amazing how much weight can be added with just a few strips.  (It's great to throw a few pieces on your buddies bike when he's not looking! Tongue out)