Steve,
If you wouldn't mind, I could use some pointers and advice regarding some bikes. I mentioned earlier I was looking at a Lemond Etape Triple, but I think I've changed my mind, and could use some help. I found out that the Lemond line is going to vanish, and my local shop isn't going to carry anything for it, once they sell their stock, so now I'm looking at a few other lines. I'm hoping you may be able to help guide me :)
One. I'm currently in Iowa and will be here until late Nov/early Dec. and I'm actually looking to buy the bike here and ship it home when I go to leave. Do you see anything really wrong w/ that? I'm aware that I won't have the maintenance plans that some offer, but in your opionion, how vital is that?
Two. I went to two different shops and told them I was in the market. Both gave me catalogs and ideas to look into, but I'm still just as confused. Could you possibly be willing to help out with some of them?
Their selections:
Trek 1.5 http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/1_series/15/
Specialized Allez Triple http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=32192
Cannondale CAAD9 http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/08/cusa/model-8RA96T.html
Cannondale Synapes Sport http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/08/cusa/model-8RAY7T.html
All of them are pretty reasonable in price and very comparable between the selling price, but then again, I'm not sure if some should be at that asking price. Do you have any particular opinions regarding any of those? Or anything that I should caution myself with?
Lost
If you are buying the bike in Iowa then moving away, you're missing the opportunity to 1) purchase a maintenance plan with the bike, and 2) building a relationship with the shop. That's unfortunate, because those are 2 major reasons to buy a new bike from a local shop. To make up for that, be sure to get some service work done before you leave (you generally need a tune up after 100-200 miles on a new bike anyway) and have them pack your bike for shipment when you do leave (let them know that before you buy!).
Having said that, I've never bought a new bike, and I don't deal with a local shop - I have an independent mechanic. When you get back home, ask other cyclists who they have work on their bike, that's how I found my guy.
I'm no expert, but looking at your choices, you seem to have two distinct styles here. The CAAD9 and the Trek have "road race" geometry frames and wheelsets, whereas the Synapes and Specialized frames & wheels look more about all-purpose riding. The prices on all these will be driven by the components you get, so without a lot of research on these, I'd guess that the asking prices are all reasonable.
Since
you want to get into triathlon riding, my advice would be to stay away
from the multi-purpose bikes. You want a light, stiff frame and good
components. The Trek and the CAAD9 are much more in that direction.
Good luck!
Steve
Thanks Steve.
Back home (Alabama) the bike shop is probably 3mi from my office and I know several who highly recommend it. I did some talking with them and they offer an extended 4yr warranty over the manufacturer's deal. Basically a 5yr warranty on any new bike. And the more I think about it, the more obvious it is that I won't get that buying here in Iowa.
As of last night, it was COLD. I'm thinking that's not something I'd look forward to either. But then again, by the time I get back to Alabama it'll be getting cold too! But the more I think about it, the more I'm leaning to getting it in 3months when I get home.
Thanks for the recommendation on the Cannondale CAAD9 and Trek. Guess it's obvious b/c I called another guy who said the same thing. Guess that just means I need to look more into those bikes and their components.
Thanks for your help. It's nice to know I can ask a perfect stranger and still get a good response. You're more than helpful! Once it gets closer, mind if I keep asking your different component questions?
Going back to your local shop at home is smart.
You can ask me about double vs. triple vs. compact cranks. Beyond that, I rapidly start running out of real experience!
Steve
Steve,
What is your experience with fixed gear bikes? I've never ridden one, but I guy I met recently swears by them and says he wouldn't go back. Any experience on one of these?'
I do have experience with fixed gear bikes - I had one back in the 70s when I was 10. Huge chrome handlebars, glittery plastic banana seat. It was awesome.
Seriously though, I had to look up "fixed gear bicycle" on Wikipedia to see if people really ride them out on the road. I've never even seen one outside a velodrome or known anyone that has ridden one, so no experience there at all.
I'm dropping my bike off at my mechanic's shop this morning. I'll ask him if he has any experience and post what he says later today.
Steve
Well Steve....
The guys here at the bike shop (Iowa) apparently only stock doubles. They said they simply don't sell the triples, and very few fixed gears. Now, back home, most of what I've seen are triples instead of doubles. I'm guessing it's the land terrain.
For the most part, the price comparison is about $50 to go from a double to a triple. Would you think it'd be smart to go ahead and get the triple, so that I have it and wouldn't have to upgrade later, since the triples the most of what's sold?
Also, when they say 9speed, is that simply the number of gears on the rear cassette? I remember the 10speed I had as a kid, was the number of gears on the back, times the number of gears on the front...is that the same now?
Thanks for the help too. If I get to quizzing you too much, feel free to tell me to stop :)
Thanks.
I've never ridden a triple crank. I don't ride mountains (I live in Missouri), but my regular weekend ride is very hilly, so I do plenty of climbing. I am very happy with my standard double crank. I have never needed the 3rd chainring, but I probably would use it if I had it (not good 4 training). I ride a 12/27 cassette which is the largest I could get, so I do have a "bail-out" gear for the steepest hills (and I use that a lot!). Oh, and we double crank riders scoff at triple crank riders as we climb past them, though I doubt the triple crank riders care
Yes, "9 speed" refers to the number of sprockets on the rear wheel cassette. I had a 10-speed when I was growing up too; yes, that has changed. And 12/27 refers to the number of teeth on the smallest and largest sprockets on the cassette. They get as small as 11, but not much bigger than 27 on a road bike. I like having 10 speeds, and the spread between 12/27 means I'm using all the gears rather than shifting twice (which I did a lot when I had a 9-speed 11/21 - to heck with that).
I suspect there are more triples sold than doubles simply because they sell more recreational bikes than high-end racing bikes. Shimano does sell a Dura-Ace triple crank, so they are out there somewhere. Most serious riders will rarely use the small chainring unless they ride miles of big climbs.
There is a middle option that lots of us old guys turn to, the compact crank. It has smaller chainrings (typically 50/34) than the standard double crank (typically 53/39). Lots of guys I ride with have a compact, but they seem to be searching for gears more often than I do. I would miss the speed of my 53. Oh, and I scoff at the compact crank riders as I climb past them too -- when I can.
Unfortunately, changing from standard to compact to triple is very expensive, since you usually have to change out the entire drive train - bottom bracket and deraulleurs too. So you sort of want to get it right when you buy the bike.
Having said all that, realize that this is your first bike. If you get serious about cycling, you will have a new bike in three years anyway. (That's not a threat, it's a promise!) And if you don't get serious, then what you pick today doesn't matter that much anyway. So my advice is feel free to go for the triple. That way you'll know if you want one on your next bike.
Steve
Oh, and fixed gear bikes are only for purists that want to scoff at anyone who can shift. Or coast.
Seriously, after reading about them and asking my mechanic, a fixed gear might be your 4th or 5th bike if you never get into spinning. A spinning bike serves the same purpose -- training you to pedal in circles. And spinning classes are fun, whereas a fixed gear bike seems like, well, not so much.
Just my humble opinions, of course!
Steve
Thanks for the input Steve. I have no experience (except for my childhood bike). Banana seats were awesome now that I think back! I think I'll find a "normal" road bike and stick to that for a while.
To add my two cents worth, I ride a triple crank mountain bike and rarely use the small crank. The only time I used it, was when I used to do a lot of climbing on real steep climbs. If it's only $50 difference, I'd go for it. It's nice to have it and not need it versus need it and not have it.
Good point Ehirning. Thanks.
Steve, I went back and looked more and actually sat on their bikes. I like the Trek 1.5 and the Cannondale CAAD9 6. And for the price difference of $100, it's almost a toss up. Honestly, at that level a few extra dollars aren't going to make that big of a difference. The dealer had a Giant Defy 2 that he said would be comparable, but I didn't climb on that one, yet.
The guy at the store was telling me that w/out measuring me and fitting me fully ($50 charge unless I buy the bike), he thinks I'm a size 52. Guess maybe, I have starting point, but I still think I'm going to wait until I get back home to buy it.
Would you have any pointers or places I should look and read between now and then to get more familiar? What accessories (besides helmet, pedals, shoes) would you put immediately on your list when you buy?
Anything else I should really look into?
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