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    • CommentAuthorFree Memberecogirl
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2009
     
    ecogirl

    Hi, well I figure I should tell a little bit about myself, since stats do play some part in how its best for you to get in shape and such and then maybe you guys could give me some advice.  Okay, so I'm 19, female, in college right now, around 180 lbs (sadly), like 5'5".  I've signed up for my first 5k.  It is on April 18th.  It is part of a little mini series.  There is a 7k May 2nd, and a 10k to finish it off on May 16th.  I want to train for these, get in good shape hopefully.  I know it will be a bit tough for the first one, but I've been running a bit lately just as some exercise, now I really want to step it up and really train hard.  Is there any advice on some good ways to get in shape for this in terms of running, strength training, or dieting?  All is GREATLY appreciated!  Thanks so much!

    EcoGirl

  1.  
    LinkLubken

    EcoGirl, first we need to get you through this mini series. So lets forget about training hard, no since injuring yourself, and think about running and training a little bit more,and maybe a little bit more often. Your conditioning will not improve much before the 5K, but with some cross training you could get 5 or 6 days cardio a week. I would suggest running /jogging 2 or 3 days, 1 or 2 days on a bike, and maybe 1 day in the pool. Because you are(sadly) over weight you don't want to bet your body up, but help it burn that weight off. You don't want to over do it, rest and recovery are just as inportant as the training. You should look forward to, and enjoy doing your workouts, and these 3 runs. If you are not you may be doing to much, or pushing yourself to hard. Now, the most important thing to start thinking about is your workout on May 18Th. Surprised ! How much fun you will have running this mini series next year with some significant weight loss, and yes maybe some REALLY HARD training before the 5K. Let us know how you are doing.

  2.  
    medicmoody

    Gotta gree with link on this one ECO. I have too many friends, my dad included, who get this notion in their heads "Train hard, gain hard..." It is soo not right.

    I'm a pretty avid runner, logging in 25-35 miles a week, but I mix it up with easy days, or rest periods. And like, I'll go out on a 4 mile easy with a friend, and he wants to amp it up. Yet he crashes sooner, and then if he joins me on some 4x800 or 11 mile long days, he's dieing.

    Same with my dad, he tried to up the strength training way too much too soon, and now he's got a Sciatic problem (butt nerve damage)

    So if you got a race coming up in a month, I would say increase the frequency you run (5-6 days) a week, and the run can be a jog too. Incresae your distances, even if you have to walk, just by increasing milage you'll be gaining. And one day, jump on the ol' boring stationary for 30-40 minutes. Or a road bike if you got one.

     Good LUCK! By the way, I know this is free advertising, but runnersworld.com has some free automatic runner plan generator in their home page, I heard some people say its not bad

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberecogirl
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2009
     
    ecogirl
    Thank you so much for the advice, both of you, I'll definitely remember that as I train and I'll let you know how it goes! :)  I'll check out that site too, thanks.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membervalabat
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2009
     
    valabat

    Ecogirl,

    I just ran my first 5k less than 2 weeks ago, on March 21st.  I gave up smoking and started running on March 1st, so I kind of understand where you are coming from.  I am fortunate to have a pretty high metabolism and I have always been active, so I haven't had to try to lose weight, but I tried to work out too hard and run too much at first. 

    My advice would be the same as the previous two, but make sure you know how to do the run/walk method properly, especially as you increase your distances.  If you do that, you'll be running for 30 minutes solid sooner than you think.  And don't worry about your times.  My first goal was just to run (or jog!) 30 minutes without having to walk.  Since yesterday marked my 1 month anniversary of running, and, other than letting my dog stop to pee and stopping for a bike, I didn't have sto walk on my 3.1 miler this morning. 

    Good luck!  Let me know how it's going!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberecogirl
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2009
     
    ecogirl

    Well, I'll be headed out for a run in a little bit, but I've set a couple of goals for this first race.  The first is to drink at least 8 cups of water a day (64 oz) and the second is to get into a good cardio routine, not necessarily running everyday, but consistently exercising.  I'll add more stuff later, but for this race, that's what I want to concentrate on.  There is this loop that I've been doing, I like it a lot, I go along Sunset Cliffs (my favorite part because you run along the ocean), then you climb up this long steep road aptly named Hill St.  That's the hardest part of my run, the huge hill and I either walk up it briskly or only run a portion of it.  The loop all together is a little over 2.5 miles and so far I can do it in about 30 minutes.  I'm hoping to get a better time before the race, but that incline is tough.  I figure its gotta be good for training though.  I need to find another route to take though or else I'll start to get bored and running will get harder and harder.  I really appreciate all the advice and plan to continue to let you guys know how my first 5K goes.  Thanks again!

    EcoGirl

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjegner
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2009
     
    jegner
    I am also training for my very 1st 5K. I started running (combined w/jogging) about 3 weeks ago adn can go 30 minutes without stopping but it's VERY hard. My 5K is May 2 so I think by then I should be in good shape. Stay positive but don't push yourself too hard or you'll injure yourself or burnout...
  3.  
    Trainbellsway
    Link called it right.  Pushing too hard now will just lead to injury.  Just a piece of advice for that first race, don't go out too fast.  It is a common rookie mistake. The adrenalin is pumping, the crowd of runners is raring to go and it's easy to get caught up in the excitement.  Run your race.  Check your pace at the 1 mile mark or sooner if you can.  If you're more than 30sec./mile faster than your training pace slow down no matter whether you're first or last.  The faster you go out the slower you will finish.  For this series your goal should be having fun.  As for losing weight part, running helps but it's not the only thing.  You have to eat right.  That's the hardest part (at least for me).  I lost 40lbs 6 years ago.  I saw and am still seeing a Registered Dietitian.  I learned to eat right but I also learned that you have to splurge from time to time.  Good luck and let us know how you're doing.
  4.  
    murdockcrc

    Hi:

     Nice topic this one, thanks for posting it. I've been running for 5 years now and I find it is a wonderful sport. I'm currently training for the Zürich's Marathon on this Apri, I normally run about 50km per week.

     The advice you've already received is good. Train hard is not the right way to do it, simply because it is not the most efficient way to achieve your goal.

    Besides what's already been said, I'd suggest you to purchase a heart monitor watch (like a Polar, for instance). This is because you'll be able to control if you are really training effectively, or if you are over-training. Your training should be done mostly on cardiac zone 2, perhaps sometimes zone 3 also, because those are the zones where 1) you lose fat and 2) you improve your aerobic condition.

     Have fun!

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    GraemeC1983

    ecogirl - firstly well done for getting into running!! To be fair, that is the hardest step and you've already taken it.

    It's good that you've realized the importance of staying well hydrated - that is key to keeping your body in check and feeling good in general.

    It sounds like you're already on the right track in terms of your running. A hilly 2.5 mile loop - which is like over 4k - so you already know mentally that you can get through the 5k - if I were you, I wouldn't get too concerned with time - at least to begin with. It will improve as you get fitter and trust me, that can be so encouraging.

    For your 10k prep, try and work in some cross training (rowing, biking, cross-trainer). If you don't have access to a gym, something like skipping can be great and is not expensive.

    It's also important that you are giving your body the right fuel. Snacking on things like nuts (unsalted) & seeds instead of crisps / chocolate etc is great as well as eating lots of fruit & veg.

    As has been mentioned above, the most important thing is to have fun - and enjoy running. Well done again:)

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Membersully79
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2009
     
    sully79
    Last year I was aked to run a 5k, I started running weighing 208lbs at 43 years old. My first run was only 2 miles by the end of the 2 weeks I had to get ready I was up to 3.5 miles. I ran the race unconcerned about the time and finished at 27 min. which at the time I thought was pretty good (not). Now 9 months later I weigh 173 lbs just finished mt 1st. 15k and am training for my 1st half marathon. My suggestion is to sign up for the 100 miles in 1 month challenge on this web site. it will give you motivation to log the miles and at the same time help you train for your races. As you start to loose weight, which you will. You will become addicted to running and start eating healthy and never look back.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberecogirl
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2009
     
    ecogirl
    Wow!  Thank you all of you for all the wonderful advice and encouragement.  I appreciate support as much as help! :)  I can see that not pushing too hard is a reoccuring theme here, so I'll definitely be sure to hed that advice.  I'm really excited, but a bit nervous as the date will be closing in quickly, only two weeks away now.  When I ran the hilly loop again on Thursday I dropped two minutes, which was really exciting!  I didn't do anything Friday (other than play some laser tag) because my calves were sore from the big hill.  I feel like my legs feel more sore when I walk up the hill than run, but I'm just not able to run the whole thing yet.  Anyways, yesterday I went rock climbing and hiking to the site I could feel it in my legs.  Rock climbing was fun, it was my first time doing it and today I'm sore, but I figured it was something I always wanted to try and would be a good way to get in some sort of different exercise.
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    sportsmarketing2

    Ecogirl,

    Good luck.  I won't rehash all of the great advice of other folks; but I will add words of encouragement.   I am am new to running in the sense that I have been running less than a year.

    Last July my wife ran a 4 mile race with some of her friends.  They started training in the spring and got themselves to a point where the could make the race distance.   I was very proud, and became inspired.  I said to myself, "if she can do it, I should too", and I set a goal to run that same race in 2009.   That was the start that got me off the couch.  I decided to run with her on a 2 mile route during our vacation a few weeks later.  (Not the smartest move I might add, as I couldn't walk up the stairs of our vacation house for days...but that's another story).   After that I kept running this same 2 mile distance a few times per week for the rest of the summer.   I pushed through the early pain, the mental games, and after many weeks started to find myself running easier, breathing easier, less sore, and able to make the hills that I inevitably need to run up and down where I live.

    I am happy to tell you now that I am now addicted to running; have lost 20+ pounds; routinely log 20-30 miles per week; have run a handful of races; ran my first 1/2 marathon; and completed MapMyRun's 100 miles in 30 days challenge.  It's all about having a positive attitude, and enjoying the many physical and mental benefits that come from a continued gradual effort.  If I can do it, then anyone can do it.  Just believe in yourself and mentally push just a little farther than you think possible and the magic starts to happen. 

    I will give one quick kudos to MapMyRun.  You are starting in the right place.  If I can point to one critical factor in my continued progress, it is to have a place to keep track of my runs;  see my routes and plan new ones (with the glee of a child opening a present); keep track of my times and other attributes; and my thoughts.  This one factor is very important to self-awareness of your progress, and something you can look back to many months later and realize how far you have come. Gradual progress is much better than burning out.

    Good luck with all.

    -Ed-

    P.S. Don't worry about the results of your upcoming race or even if you can make the whole distance; just be proud that you are putting it all on the line and that you are doing your best.   Running is truly a journey and the races are only waypoints.   I use races & race preparation as a motivation tool and nothing more since I doubt I will ever be fast enough to beat the swift of feet.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberfatleaf825
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2009
     
    fatleaf825
    hi Eco- was in the same boat as you about a year and a half ago, roughly same weight and height. just started really focusing in January doing run/walk and in March was able to do 3.5 miles straight through without walking, and it was amazing. Cool did my first 5K on 3/22 and was able to run the entire thing without walking (and i had a bad cold- was very happy). it is an awesome feeling!! just in the past 4 weeks, have gotten so much better. i have been running at least 4 times per week, about 2 cross training days (elliptical, swimming). also use weights/strength twice per week. i noticed that pilates/yoga help with the breathing. just quit smoking 4 weeks ago, too and my results are unbelievable- you dont realize how great your lungs are until you quit smoking!! also able to go faster, but i never overdo it and i listen to my body if i am overdoing it. have been training for a 10 miler in may (i have been using Hal Higdon's 15K and half-marathon novice training guide)- was petrified when i registered but am now very pumped and i feel i can definitely run the entire thing! never thought i could say that- just keep up the awesome work, i intend to do the same. eat lots of fruits and veggies and eat frequently throughout the day but small portions. that has helped me lose 30+ lbs- still have some work to do but considered at healthy weight now. i feel great- my mood is positive. i love running- not only the physical results, but mentally as well, just feel so happy. keep up the good work- you will have weeks when you weigh in and your number wont budge, dont get discouraged, it may be you're building muscle. dont focus on numbers for now, just focus on maintaining a healthy diet and be disciplined with your workouts! i have been writing down my run results, too- it seems to keep me motivated to beat my last time. most importantly- have fun!! great job!!
    • CommentAuthorFree Membermarymo22
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2009
     
    marymo22

    Eco

    I'm 220 lbs 5 ft 4, and have struggled with my weight for a number of years.

    I decided to do a 5k run 2 years ago, thought I'd trained really hard, did loads of walking (about 15-20 miles per week), but just couldn't manage more then 1 minute of jogging at a time. I got a bad cold just before the race.... i wanted to run it and managed to run about half. I was dissapointed - the cold set me back for weeks and I lost interest.

    So this year I thought i'd have another go..... started training on my own and was much more focused. I started about 8 weeks ago, and have gradually increased. I managed my first jog 5 minutes and was so pleased. I am now training with people much fitter than me, doing about 3 miles at a time. I realise my times are quite slow, but the improvement is great, and I can really tell.

    The one thing I absolutely have to do is stretch properly afterwards, if I neglect to do enough stretching, my calves hurt for days after.... 

    My 5k is in 4 1/2 weeks, and I plan to continue and do a 10k later in the year. 

    Good luck in your race, I hope you feel as I do, that I am doing something to increase my fitness, hopefuly loose weight on the way, but I can tell already my shape is changing - people are noticing that I look and feel better - it's a great confidence booster and makes you want to continue.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberecogirl
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2009
     
    ecogirl

    Thanks so much for the continued encouragement.  I thought I should give a little update on how things are going. 

    First off, I only have 3 days left until race day which is, I must admit, a bit scary.  So at the beginning of April I had been running consistently and was getting to the point where I was actually excited to run each day, it was definately getting easier, and I was getting faster.  Unfortunately, last week I got a cold.  My mom recommended that I not run for a bit so I could get over it before the race.  I took her advice and the cold is now gone, but I ran last night and my time had gone up again.  Not too much and I'm not discouraged, just a little bummed.  I only have a few more days to run (today and tomorrow) as I don't want to run the night before.  I hope it'll feel a little better these next few days, but we'll see. 

    I'm trying to get between 7 and 8 hours of sleep a night (which can be quite challenging living in a dorm) and I'm trying to drink 8 cups of water a day.  I've also been trying to eat well, a good mix of foods and not more than I need (also not less than I need).

    The race is Saturday and I'll post how it goes.  I had a few questions though.  What areas do people usually focus on for strength training (I don't plan to start before this quickly approaching race, but would like to get into it afterwards.)  Also, my calf hurts.  I think its because I usually walk weird, with my feet turned out a bit, but when running, they naturally straighten and then get sore.  Any advice here?  Finally, any advice for night before/morning of eating?  Thanks guys! :)

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberKaine
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2009
     
    Kaine

    Best of luck ecogirl - I think everyone has guided you well in this thread.

    The only thing few things I would add is personally for me the build up to any race is full of anxiety, however as soon as I start running this anxiety disappears and gets converted into energy that will lift you more than you sometimes realise.

    Im my case, on my first few races I had no idea how to pace myself when running alongside others so struggled with consistant pace.  Running off too quickly is very easy to do - you can tell yourself you will run at your pace, however for me I struggled to find 'my' pace when running in a group.  The fact you are doing three races in a short period of time will help you find your race pace though so thats a good move.

    Enjoy the race and get ready for the race addiction

    Kaine

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberloopylou75
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2009
     
    loopylou75

    Hi Ecogirl, good luck for saturday! i'm doing my first 5k in four weeks time and i'm new to running.So reading sum of the advice u've recieved has helped me also x

  7.  
    LinkLubken
    ecogirl--- I want to hear about your first 5K, and now your 7K tomorrow too !!! The not knowing is killing me here.

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