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    • CommentAuthorFree Memberhmpowers
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2009
     
    hmpowers

    Hello everyone,

     I just started (on week 2 of hal higdon novice) training for my first marathon. I have been running for about 3-4 months prior to this, probably about 5-10 miles per week. I'm not a 'runner' (i will never be fast or really great at it) but i enjoy it and a marathon is my lifetime goal!

    I was just wondering if it's ok just try to do this race without any prior half marathons, etc. I ran a 10k a month ago and it was awesome.

     Also, my long run this week of 7 miles was fine, but the day after my knees were killing me! Should i continue increasing my milage or should i drop down to a half this year and try for a marathon next?

     

    Thanks

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberswallow
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2009
     
    swallow

    I too am a first-timer.  I don't have any advice, just my own story.  I started running 3 years ago and ran a few 5k's and a 10k.  I decided my goal was to run a 1/2 marathon, which I accomplished in May.  I went into the race hoping I wouldn't come out wanting to run a full.  WRONG.  I am now training for a full in October. 

     Good luck with your training.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberboyjame
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2009
     
    boyjame

    Oh I just spent like 10 minutes typing comments only to have an error.  Oh well. 

    hmpowers - I am not an expert but can relate because last year I attempted my first full marathon.  I ran x-country in high school and then after a couple of years of random running, took 8 years off of running or much exercise at all.  Last year I just went for it and began training. I started in March and it took me about 3-4 months just to build a base of 5-6 mile runs.  I increased my runs throughtout July and August and ran a half in early September.  My longest run up to that point was 11 miles.  I had fun and half marathons are definately a good race to run.  I then decided to go for the full in November.  I was able to get in LRs of 15, 17, 18, and 19.5 before tapering three weeks prior to the full.  I completed it in 3:57 which I was happy with.  Also in hind sight, I wished I had more time to get in longer LRs and recovery in between.  But that's what this year is for.  I suggest looking for a half in the middle of your training for th full. It's a good measuring stick of where your body is and how it might react in that longer race setting - plus it's a great experience.  Just my two cents.  But the bottom line is you will need to make sure that you get in LRs of 3 or 4 hours.  Your body needs to know what it's like to run for that length of time.  Good luck!

    Swallow is right...racing is addictive. 

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    fb.MeghK.552

    Don't do Hal's program.  You will burn out way too quickly, I tried it last year.  Try the Jeff Galloway method.  SO much more mentally/physically managable.  It's a combo of run/walk.  I do all the runs running, except for the long runs I do the run/walk combo.  I am up to 16 miles this weekend and the longest i've ever run is 10 miles at the Soldier Field race a couple months ago before I started training with this method.  Did 14 miles 2 weeks ago and wasn't even sore the next day.  Good Luck!!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdexlengel
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    dexlengel
    I can't speak for Hal's program but friends of mine say it's good. I am prepping for the USMC Marathon at the end of October. I am excited since it is my first one and raising money for Wounded Warrior. I have been using Galloway's program (loosely) and find the concept great for me. Like hmpowers, I ran competitively in HS and loved running through much of college. The "job" had gotten in the way (at least it was my excuse) for not running so much in recent years until I spent the last year in Saudi Arabia--then I had nothing but time to go run! i am back to loving running again and so very glad. I said I was using Galloway's plan loosely because my travel get in the way from time to time but being back in America will hopefully stabilize that routine. Definitely don't slack on the long runs. I was in NYC last week and it was time for a longer run in my plan. I planned to just go across the Brooklyn Bridge and jog past some of the sights. Galloway's run/walk method (and a desire to jsut keep going) led me to run 28 miles in 4:45. Not fast and hindered a bit by rush hour traffic, but the run/walk got me to the end. i wasn't sore, had energy for sightseeing with my family later and went running the next day. Because of the LR, I am not afraid of the unknown. I'm met the wall (it sucked) but I have beat it once and am ready to do it again. Your body does some interesting stuff after 3+ hours of running/walking. It was good to see it before my first marathon. Ready to do it again in the near future. I recommend PowerGel for along the way and of course stay hydrated. You need to take care of yourself since there's no race support people to help. Run Safe! Matt
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberhodgski
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    hodgski
    Hey - best of luck with your training, I ran my first one a couple of years ago, going from pretty unfit to running a 4hr 30 marathon in 3 months, for what it's worth these are my tips: Don't worry about time too much your only objective should be to get round, just work out the route and knock out the miles even if it takes ages. The more miles you do the faster you will get. It's a bit of a confidence game - doing half's gives you a buzz and a bit of confidence doing longer races so is worth while. A few post run aches and pains and niggles are likely (swimming the day after helps! or yoga - non impact excercise) but repeated pain is a sign to lay off a bit. Don't worry about sticking religiously to a programme as long as you manage to build up to 3 / 4hour runs over longer distances and some shorter ones in the week to keep fit. If your body is screaming no! please no! then listen. Going for a long walk is a good alternative if you can't face a run. On longer runs ie: 2hrs plus you will need to eat and drink on the way, i find taking some money for a marsbar and a bottle of water at the half way point is a good incentive, gives you a short rest, gets your body used to taking on food and gives you less to carry. Most important tip of all - enjoy your running: vary your routes, include nice scenery, take music if you fancy (but try it without, you listen to your body better) reward yourself when you've done longer stuff. Best of luck - hope some of that is useful. Colin
    • CommentAuthorSilver Membershipadwileski
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    adwileski

    I've used Hal Higdon's program in the past for my first half and am using it again for another in the fall.  I think the problem with burning out could be twofold: 1. you weren't ready to take on a full marathon and 2. you weren't listening to your body.  I often contemplate one day doing a full marathon, but I don't know that I have the attention span to run 4 hours...no joke.  However, should I get the notion to do so I would more than likely use his program for it. 

    With that said,  I have also used Jeff Galloway's program to start me out running when I couldn't even make it a half a mile, and firmly believe that were it not for him I would have given up.  Eventually when I was able to cover some ground without stopping, I chaged to Hal's program.  I have a lot of respect fo both men, and were it not for them I'd still be sitting on my butt eating pork rinds and having a beer.  (Ok, I still occasionally do that.)

    Remember: listen to your body regardless of what program you're on.

    Best of luck!

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberJPH78
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2009
     
    JPH78
    If your knees were killing you then you have a biomechanical issue and this must be addressed before doing any serious training. Once it is addressed you will be able to run better, as your technique will have improved and that will result in being able to run more.

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