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    • CommentAuthorFree MembermoreRon
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     
    moreRon

    Hi all, I've recently got back into recreational/sportivo cycling after some years off (count 12) though I've been commuting and/or running in the interim. The only time I recall getting leg cramps back then was a post flu race.

    Now it seems I'm guaranteed to get leg cramps on any event lasting >3-4hrs. Though the cramps are most likely to present when the event is long and of high intensity I also get them occasionally on short training rides, and even in bed at night (those horrid foot arch types). Riding cramps appear most frequently in the calves, followed by quads, and hamstrings.

    I've been vigilent on the hydration and electrolyte side of things and the ride environment is pretty temperate (not too hot/cold/humid). Also have tried various food and supplement regimes including banana, fig, magnesium, calcium, enzogenol, fish oil, and I don't have a low sodium diet.

    Background: I'm 35 years old, about 74kg, 183cm, resting HR low 40s, and I'm training about 10-12hrs per week on the bike. I also do a core workout, but admittedly a bit lax on the stretching side of things. I also have some varicose veins reappearing (had some removed in my youth) with an accompanying dull pain from time to time.

    Any insight or advice most appreciated - thinking of visiting my GP, though wonder if there might be a better medical/sports practitioner on this front?

    Many thanks,

    Ron
     

    • CommentAuthorFree Membermistere
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2007
     
    mistere

    I've tried many products and remedies found researching the cramping problem without much success.  Using a sports drink daily with meals, rather than water or soda seems to have helped a little, but continued long distance riding seems to be making the most improvement.   I had discussed this twice during doctor visits, their only suggestion was stretching. 

    • CommentAuthorFree Membersherrick
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2007
     
    sherrick

    I notice you're on the tall side, about 6 ft, (I'm 6'2", or 187 cm) and most of the cyclists I've talked to that have consistent cramping, especially in non-stress situations like just lying in bed, are tall. Maybe our muscles are just longer and more prone, who knows. Anyway, it sounds like you're doing all the right things in terms of hydration, nutrition, training, and endurolytes. (One suggestion i'd make is try Hammer products endurolyte powder, not the capsules, and mix it into your water bottle, so you are constantly taking on the endurolytes, instead of waiting until the cramps threaten.)

    So, it you're doing everything right, then the only other sure fire, guaranteed advice that nobody wants to hear, let alone pay attention to, is:

    Slow down.

    Cramping is your body's way of saying you've hit your wall, and you can't do much more or you'll pay the price. I find that i can tell now exactly when my muscles are getting to the edge, and if i just back off a little, even just 1/2 mile per hour, I can ride through the uncomfortable spot, get my legs adjusted, and pick up again when I've recovered a bit.

    And keep stretching. That's the second best thing. Forget the chemicals, your muscles are tight and need to relax.

    Good luck! 

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    EndorphinAddict

    Hydration & proper nutrition must be consistant.  Stretching and incorporating some resistance training has helped me with my muscle cramps. This is my two cents of wisdom.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membernatilisk
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     
    natilisk
    You can also try the Emergen C mineral powder. Its not necessarily designed as an athletic drink but one packet provides a ton of electrolytes and minerals that may help. I have yet to cramp with emergen c in my water bottle.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrosko68
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    rosko68
    I have always suffered with cramps no matter how much attention I pay to hydration. The only thing that I have had results with is the use of salt tablets before, during and after riding. I have been told that by being diligent and keeping hydrated, it is also flushing all the nutrients out of your body. There is also a product called 'quinine' that is found in some tonic waters. This is also believed to assist in the relief of cramping. Instead of drinking 'coke' and the like, try tonic water. I hope that this may help you, I know that it does help me. I dont cramp if I use these few items to supplement my hydration...
    • CommentAuthorFree MembermoreRon
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2008
     
    moreRon
    Cheers for that all, gin and tonic it is (also good for malaria I believe). Will try out the various suggestions and get back if anything appears to be doing the trick.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membercerabell18
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2008
     
    cerabell18
    I've found that taking two TUMS before going on a ride really helps with the leg cramps both during and after.
    • CommentAuthorFree MembermoreRon
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     
    moreRon

    Just to update anyone who is interested - haven't had cramps for a couple of months now. Haven't altered any hydration maintenance and am actually taking less supplements/electrolytes but one (possibly two) factor(s) appear to have a positive benefit.

    Am taking stretching a bit more seriously - have a "Active Isolated Stretching" regime a do around 4 times per week. The other factor that surely is contributing is my switch to home brew beer (full mash) rather than commercial sources ;

    Have a decent race coming up at the end of the month which should be the acid test...

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