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    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlnd1218
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008
     
    lnd1218

    A cross-country runner told me to run as quietly as possible. I've been running since then fairly frequently. Since moving to Colorado, I've been trying to run 4x per week.

    My point is, every now and then I can't run quietly and my left leg smacks the ground. It drives me crazy and I physically cannot lift my toes to get that smooth roll from heel to toe - on every other step. If I try, my calf - maybe behind my bone - hurts. I cannot tell whether it's a muscle or ligament. It's usually not painful enough for me to stop running....but I run straight home when it bothers me.

    Usually this only happens for a day or two and disappears - maybe twice in the last 6 months. Not sure why because I don't really change any of my habits. Last week it kept getting worse, tried to run 4 days, so I took about 5 days off and now I'm just fine.

    Does anyone recognize this?

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberway2fast
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008 edited
     
    way2fast

    My only advice is to not run heel toe its not a natural movement and that might be the reason for the pain striking mid foot or even on the fore foot makes for a pretty quiet run. Although take it easy at first if you decide to transition from what you've been doing cause you might get shin splints but those generally aren't serious.

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberKDogg
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008
     
    KDogg

    Do not try and adjust your gait when you run, just use your natural form. Using one's natural form is 1.) most economical and 2.) feels best (most of the time anyway).

    As you continue to train, your form will improve naturally. Training on hills is particularly useful to help here. Another idea is to do fast paced strides after you finish your runs. 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlnd1218
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2008
     
    lnd1218

    Thank you both for the comments.

     

    I have been running as quietly as possible and trying not to think about the details of my footfalls. It's been going ok, so perhaps my brain was just working too hard.

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    jumpshotjonny

    I'm not sure I'd agree with not trying to alter your gait at all when you run. I would agree with trying to use your natural form. The problem though is that most people do not run naturally and almost anyone including elite athletes can benefit from working on their form. A heel-to-toe gait for example is not natural at all.

    I would agree with way2fast that a mid-foot or fore-foot footfall would probably be better. But if you do start with transitioning your stride you have to be careful because your body is not used to that stride and you could end up with shin splints or worse stress fractures.

    Here's a link with some tips for good form:  http://www.pccoach.com/newsletters/Dec03/gall_form.htm

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlnd1218
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2008
     
    lnd1218

    Thank you for the website. There were some interesting suggestions.

    Now, I do not understand why a heel-to-toe gait is unnatural. I walk and run by landing on my heel and rolling to my toes. The only exception are dancers (as far as I know), who sometimes walk landing on their toes. Landing flat on my foot feels uncomfortable and is loud.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdrkonijn
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008
     
    drkonijn

    Heal toe is all wrong. It means you are over striding. Your heal hits in front. Your leg pushes up into your hip as your hip has to drive up and over your leg. Then you repeat on the other side. Something will have to give and it appears it is your lower leg. Your foot needs to come down under your center of gravity. If you’ve ever played a sport where your coach has told you to stand on the balls of your feet this is where you want your feet to touch. Pretend you’re playing basketball and go to steal the ball as it’s passed to your side. Take a couple of side steps to reach it and then run forward with the “ball” a few steps. Then run like you run in those few steps.

  2.  
    rpetreccajr

    What is with all this heel - toe is all wrong stuff here? In the 30+ years that I've been running, I've seen very few mere mortal distance runners running on their toes/balls of their feet. IMHO it is d*** hard to do that for any significant distance without killing your calves and achilles. Pretending like you are stealling a basketball means sprinting. For that, yes, get up on your toes. But don't expect to keep that up for miles on miles unless you are an elite runner.

     The advice to "run quietly" is good, but you have to do that within the scope of what your body is capable of. You don't want to overstride and exagerate the heel-toe motion. That will cause you to overstrees the muscles in the fron of your shin as they decelerate the forefoot hitting the ground after your heelstrike - thus shin pain. You are also braking every time your feet hit the ground, causing you to work a lot more.

     KDogg has it right - do what you do naturally. As you get more experienced, your form will improve.

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    BasHorneman
    You should not run on your toes/balls of your feet..Nor should you do heel-toe. Check out http://www2.trainingbible.com/joesblog/2007_03_01_archive.html Joe Friel's blog. (Scroll down to the 2nd article)
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlnd1218
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     
    lnd1218

    Thanks for that website, BasHorneman. Unfortunately, the video link for the flat-foot-strike runner does not work. It makes sense that the less the feet are on the ground, the faster a person will run.

    I would like to make a couple of comments. (1) In any sport, a person can improve their form. That's why I started this thread, to get ideas on how to improve my form. It will not improve naturally. (2) My toes do not point in the air when I run, the heel strike and roll to the toes is very slight. Running on the balls of the feet sounds very strange to me, but I will play around with that and see what it feels like.

    This discussion is great - many different thoughts.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdrkonijn
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     
    drkonijn
    Don't get me wrong. Running on the balls of your feet isn't like some drag race in high heels. Just think of it this way. You rest on your heels and someone who is ready for action is "on the ball" or "on their toes". Yes, it is the same form as sprinting, but sprinting is just running at higher level of effort. Take auto racing for example, they drive around faster mostly because they are using more powerful engines and fuel not because they have redesigned the motion of the wheel.

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