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    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrecabc
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2008
     
    recabc

    This is all very interesting - I have a somewhat different take on it because of a genetic abnormality called microtia.  That means I have just one ear and a corresponding inability to hear where sounds come from very well.  Those of you who are two-eared may not realize how much you use both of them to help you figure out where a sound is coming from.

    The one ear I do have works fine, but when I'm running or riding, I've never used an mp3 player or the like because I don't want to interfere with my already not-so-good ability to locate the source of a sound, especially if its coming from a Greyhound bus or something else lots bigger than me.

    I joined a large marathon training team a couple of years ago and most of the coaches were death on mp3 players from the safety angle.  They also wanted us to be able to talk to our teammates and get acquainted.  That really helped me get through the longest runs.  If I had been training on my own, I would have gotten pretty bored on some of those 15 mile plus outings, no doubt.

    But still, no mp3 player for me.  I can't get those earplug thingys to stay in very well either, and of course, I've got an extra one that I don't know what to do with.

     

     

     

  1.  
    adamappleby

    Hi,

     I find that I cannot run nearly as far as I do when I don't use music.  A lot of it has to do with boredom, in particular because there aren't too many scenic spots around me to run, but also as I get tired I find nothing else to really grab my attention other than the pain I'm feeling. 

     The problem I have is I often start to run faster with certain songs and it may/may not ruin my pace.   I make a conscious effort to go slower regardless of the song and more just look at the song as a way to keep me going while pumping me up inside but not leading to me burning myself out.  I also try to mix the songs up from slow ones that calm me down to more upbeat ones that pump me up.

    But, right now on my IPOD I listen to...

    California (Dr. Dre and TuPac), Moon River, that Try So Hard song (Bone Thugs and Harmony), Listen to your Heart (remake), Dance with my Father, three Rocky songs (hearts on fire, training montage, war), Lord of the Dance (with taps), Knock you Out (LL Cool J), Don't know what you got till it's gone (Cinderella), Runaway Train (Soul Asylum), Epic (Faith No More), No one (Alicia Keyes), God Gave Rock and Roll to You (Kiss), three Oasis songs (Wonderwall, Live Forever, and Supernova), Last Kiss (Pearl Jam), and Nothing to do with you (Fergie).

     I have a lot more on my computer and basically switch every week or so to add some more songs so I don't get bored. 

     Anyway, yeah, that's me.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membertoorski
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2008
     
    toorski

    All,

     I am a huge fan of the ipod and my performance suffers tremendously without my shuffle or nano.  The key to making my music truly "work" for me is to spend quality time creating playlists(thank you iTunes), a variety of them, to compliment my choice of run for the day. I use the map my run site to create and name my runs and then plan my music with a warm-up, tempo and cool down and time the playlist according to my performance ability on my courses.  For a marathon I also use music (yes the entire time!).  Having completed several I know where my physical and emotional pick-me-up areas are and also plan my music well ahead of time and train with the playlist to make sure it works for me.  I run approx. 30 seconds per mile faster when I have my music and don't feel distracted by the patting of my feet or my breathing.

     Music is a huge part of my life and I enjoy a very eclectic variety, I use music to clean my house to enjoy leisure time out by our pool or for long commutes in my car just as a few examples.  The emotional tie to music is proven in study after study.

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    rundontpass

    It is really interesting to hear all of the different reasons why people listen or not while running, but for me its completely different. for the last 6 years of running competitively, i have also been a member of my schools' marching bands. Because of this, I seem to automatically make the tempo of the song my running pace. So I listen to music for pace work, by having a playlist of similar tempo songs, or interval workouts. Also songs with long accellerandos help too, such as RadioVideo by System of a Down. Those songs are always great to end a speed workout on because you keep wanting to go faster as the song finishes.

    In contrast, I do not listen during recovery days. On days like those you have to listen to what your body is telling you and you cant hear your body over the music. Also anytime that i am doing race prep workouts on the course of a big meet, I do not listen. This is the time to be reading the environment and paying attention to things like wind strengths, imperfections in the ground, and grading.  

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjp1
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2008
     
    jp1

    Talk radi works for me. Particularly NPR as they ussually speak softly and have soothing background music.

    For those of you that have ear peices falling out of your ears, a small peice of gauzy type medical tape across the earbud works well to hold them in. It is also waterproof so your sweat shouldn't cause problems.

    Jeff

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberCCorina
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2008
     
    CCorina
    For me music is a great pick me up and energiser during intervals, hill work, high intensity workouts. On long runs it is a distraction, as it messes up my concentration and pace. On a 15mile /long run i try to focus on being tuned up with my body and as comfortable as possible and i can't listent o my body with music in my ears. But I  do take my ipod with me just in case i get bored. I have some soothing/slow tunes and classical music to calm me down, and a different upbeat playlist for the times when i'm tempted to ride the bus back home.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberSielickd
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2008
     
    Sielickd

    Howdy all,

          Great discussion.  Congrats on the t-shirt Yoda9864.

          I have two main concerns with running to music.  

    1. Safety.  Running on roads?  You really have to keep your head on a swivel, (not an easy thing to do when you're hurtin') traffic and/or shady characters ARE out to get you.  Trails?  Nature can beat you down in more ways than I care to get into.
    2. Hearing loss.  I don't have any studies or articles to back me here, but it seems like it would be common sense.

         Those two points aside, I haven't run without music in years (aside from the odd race).  I haven't had a problem with motivation since.  Any issues I had prior about staying in tune with my run have been negated with that fact.  I don't use the music for pacing.  The music stays in the background, I use it purely for attitude (only metal on my pod).  The aggressiveness gets me out the door day after day and helps me turn around at the bottom of each flight of stairs.  My mp3 is my training partner whose only job is to motivate me.

                   See you at the pub.     Laughing

    -Dan

    p.s.  Finding the right earpiece is tough.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberplt2072
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2008
     
    plt2072

    The best earphones that I have used (to date I'm constantly searching for something better) are the silicone inner ear buds. The version I have right now are made by Sony and cost about $20.00.  The biggest problem I have with them is that they tend to degrade over time (constant squeezing to fit them in the ear causes the rubber/silicone to begin to fragment) so you'll have to replace them a couple of times a year. 

     

    Hope that helps.

    -Lon

    • CommentAuthorFree Membergspring
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2008
     
    gspring

    Hello. I can relate to your problems of running with music. I am very much into the beat of music when I run and found it hard to run to different songs on my Ipod. I looked on Itunes for something to run to that would "help" me keep up a regular pace. I downloaded Podrunner. It is all techno music categorized by BPM.  About 175 BPM is a 10 minute mile.  I ran a relay last year with one that was 181 BPM and actually took 3 minutes time off my training time.  Try it...it's free on ITunes.

    Ginny

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    pawneefire18
    I myself have trouble running without listening to something. When I listed to music though I tend to run too fast and burn out. Instead I am one of those that listen to audiobooks while running. I haven't been running very long and was wondering to msyelf how many other people listen to audiobooks and whether or not that was odd. Now I know that it is not as odd as I thought. I find that audiobooks allow me to set my pace much more easily that music does.
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    sanfrompompey
    Hi am new to this site and have taken up the 100 miles a month running challenege, i doubt i would of been able to almost complete it (13 miles to go) without my trusted ipod.  I did try audio books James patterson i found i couldn't follow the story as well as run, his books are very full on so maybe listening to something a little more light hearted would of been ok. I read back and someone pointed out PODRUNNER on itunes and yes he was right it's free, its bpm is between 134-168, i downloaded and used it on my run this morning and it's very good, you start to slowly increase your speed without really realising it, i even managed to set myself a new PB on 10k.  So get on over to itunes and type in podrunner and download it and try it yourself.  Good luck
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberLexB
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    LexB

    I usually run with music, I take great pleasure in sorting my perfect run list, getting the timing right, the right song at the right spot. Actually some of the stuff I run to I wouldn't ordinarily listen to! There are tracks I would never put on in the house, but nothing beats them for running - especially some of the dance tunes.  (I usually listen to very chilled guitar stuff - someone mentioned bonny prince billy - my favourite at home, but how on earth do you run to it, it just makes me want to curl up on a big sofa!

    I go with a lot of the electronica stuff - my faves now are Stoned in Love by Chicane (not what I would listen to at home), a little less conversation by Elvis and Since you've been gone by Kelly Clarkson (which I would NEVER listen to normally) and I MUST finish on Running Away by the Polyphonic Spree which I swear must quadruple the endorphin release - I'm high as a kite when I finish to that tune!

    : )

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberYoda9864
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    Yoda9864

    Wow!  I read all of your posts and I'm amazed at all the different points of view! I guess there are a lot more than just with or without music.

     A quick update on my situation: Since I originally started this thread, I have purchased a treadmill and it has changed the way I run quite a bit.  

     The problem I had before was that I was the one that had to set my pace.  But with the steady pace set by a treadmill, I found that I could listen to any type of music I wanted.  I'm loving it!  I now cannot go running (on the treadmill) without music.  It's funny how that happened.  

     I think, however, that I'll be going back to no music once I start running outside again.  And I'm sad that that will probably be the case since I've gotten so used to it.  The snow is finally starting to melt here in Wisconsin, so I should be able to get outside again in a week or two.  We'll see when that time comes.

     I'm very intrigued by the Podrunner that some of you mentioned. I will definitely go check that out.

     Thank you all for your input!

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    treetrunk28

    I too find that music on the treadmill tends to be much easier to listen too while running on a treadmill.  For me though, I am not so sure if it's the pace already being set, but the fact that there is nothing else to do on a treadmill.

    It's probably just a psychological thing of mine, but I have come to love running both with and without music, especially outside, regardless.  I've learned to look around and enjoy my surroundings more than I did when I ran in school.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbasti76
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    basti76

    I do both: run with and w/o MP3 player.

     with: in the gym to get pumped for long intervals, to listen to Steve Runner on the occassional long run on a rainy day, but mostly to overshadow the ambient noise in the gym of turning treadmills, grunts and the conversations between walkers/runners across four treadmills

     

    without: outdoors always for safety and the beauty of nature

    PLUS: best training for races - once raceday is around it's all guts and adrenaline no more Ipods (thanks to USATF for the recent crack down on mp3 players during races- keep it up!)

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberLexB
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2008
     
    LexB
    I run to music, I actually used to have my music pretty loud but only used the ear buds and if I was in a busy area or on a main road I would take one ear piece out. The other day I was cycling along the sea wall in Vancouver which has a separate lanes for cyclists and for pedestrians, but the number of runners and in-liners that were in the cycling lane (the in-liners are supposed to use the cycle lane I think). Who were in the middle of the ruddy path way, oblivious to anything around them with huge noise blocking headphones or their music cranked up so loud they can't hear a thing, especially the cyclist (ME) behind them screaming 'excuse me', 'beep beep' and slightly more direct comments at them for the last mile! It certainly made me think about myself when I am running. PLEASE if you do listen to music in your headphones be very aware of your surroundings, stick to one side of the path way & avoid the cycle lane if you can - check behind you every now and then too and don't act all surprised if a cyclist whizzes past you - they may have been behind you for quite some time. Sorry guys I just really had to get that rant off my chest! : )
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    Compbasher

    Hey there! I''ve been running consistently for only a year now and i've come to find my mp3 is a must have. I had the same issues as you did, i.e. beat of the song messing up your pace. I did some research online and found a beat per minute (BPM) counter and started counting beats per minute to songs i listened to while running that seemed to match my pace one i got into the run. Once i figured out what my average bpm was I started a playlist for running by looking at an online bpm catalogue and finding out which songs were around my personal bpm. I started off slower then gradually raised the bpm til I got to my confort zone. I added a few faster ones at the end to polish it off. That's been working great for me so I highly suggest that. Hope it helps!

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    Ladynat999

    LOL..I cant believe how many people run with music!!!

    I just CANT run with music..i want to, but just cant!

    1st: the earbuds never stay in (even the sports ones)

    2nd: Music when running makes me feel claustropobic

    3rd: It totally messes up my pace and breathing. I have to really concentrate on my breathing or i get stitch and i find that any music just ruins it. I might give it another go, but cant even listen to my Nike Ipod trainer thing when running..i think its the earplug that i cant stand!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbhbrtn
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2008
     
    bhbrtn
    I like music on easy runs. I can listen to Rock, Jazz or Classical w/o a problem. When I am doing speed-work (intervals or tempo) it stays home.
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    Harbourboy
    I used to run with music all the time.  I have some great earphones that never fall out.  But now I do some of my runs with no music, when I want to concentrate on running, or when I want to take in the sounds of wherever it is I am running.  I have no problems with people using music in a race.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjkpesven
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008
     
    jkpesven
    No music here.  I like the peace and quiet I get when running outdoors.  It also really messes up my pacing.  I get in a real rhythm when running, and music screws it up.  I also find that many (not all) people get very distracted when running with music and don't pay attention to their surroundings.  I would rather not contribute to that.
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    alcapeachi
    i am a runner who uses music and find i cant really run without it. i use my music to help me all the way. i set up a playlist before i run that will fit my run perfectly. i start of with old school rap tunes that are slow and calming then go into the heavier rap of today and into trance and hardcore dance songs. i find the pace set of these songs pushes me harder than i would without them.

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