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    • CommentAuthorDuvelke
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2008
     
    Duvelke

    Hi,

    can some one give me some advice with my very annoying and embarassing problem :

    i'm training to participate the 20km of Brussels the 25th May 2008.
    Since i run more than 1hour (10k) , i feel the need to go to the lavatory.
    When i train 1hour and a half, it ends in a sprint to the toilet to avoid an "accident".

    The sportdoctor i went to, never heard of the problem and adviced me : no fruit or vegetables the days i run and a medicin against diarrhoea (Immodium) just before i start. But last time it didn't work.

    This way, i can't participate, because there are no toilets available on the road.

    Help

    • CommentAuthorSreid923
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2008
     
    Sreid923

    I would start taking a good look at your diet, write down what you eat and when you eat and then start experiement with different things. See if patterns develop with your diet/running and bathroom habits. I'm not sure exactly what kind of symptoms Chron's disease involves but you might want to google it and see if it might be a culprit. I do know that it involves stomach issues.

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    • CommentAuthorcpcrouse
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2008
     
    cpcrouse
    Runner's World has a blog called "Ask the Running Doc," which addressed this last August: http://runningdoctor.runnersworld.com/2007/08/whats-the-deal-.html .  It seems like pretty good info...
  1.  
    RapidoHombre

    I'm missing part of my colon.  Because if that I'm stuck with diarrhea for the rest of my life.  I've tried Immodium before and didn't notice much of a difference with it when it comes to controlling diarrhea.  Eating the right foods helps a lot in my case.  I keep away from fruits and vegetables before running, they seem to give me the most trouble.  The foods that work the best for me are oatmeal, bagels, toast, most kinds of bread, peanut butter, and one of the best aids I've found is Metamucil. 

    I like to mix it in the morning with corn flakes or Special K or other low sugar cereals.  I add some instant oatmeal too to this mix along with soy milk and to make things tastier in my case at least some chocolate syrup, chocolate soy milk doesn't hurt either. But what really works great with this mix is 5 or more grams of Metamucil.  The stuff really works great at getting rid of diarrhea.  I've tried a lot of things and so far Metamucil or the no name brands of Metamucil all do a fine job of solving the problem.  I can run as far or long as I want without having to worry about diarrhea now.  The right foods are what really makes the difference.

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    TigerLily817

    Interestingly enough, I experienced something similar last weekend, on my first run longer than about an hour and ten (I was out for 90 minutes).  A little over halfway through, I started to feel a bit odd in the stomach department, and it came in mild waves until I finished the run.  I had to do my usual pushups and crunches in spurts between trips to the bathroom.  The stomach problem lasted most of the day, so I'm not sure if it was related to running, or just a stomach bug.  This is the only time this has happened to me, but again, it was the farthest/longest I have ever run (9 miles).

    I didn't eat anything before I ran (I try to run early on Saturday mornings, and if I eat something I have to wait a good hour and a half before I can do anything), but I did carry a water bottle with me, and downed about half of it during the run.  The waves "down there" seemed to coincide with drinking.  Do you drink anything while you run?

    Unless you have problems with your bowels on a fairly regular basis (and not just while running), I would doubt it is Crohn's.  I have a friend with Crohn's, and she concurs.  If you do experience problems at other times, though, I would definitely check with a doctor. 

    Good luck on your 20k!

    • CommentAuthorborntocry
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2008
     
    borntocry

    That always happens to me.  I try to make sure I go to the bathroom before I run.  Sometimes I have to drink a cup of coffee or eat something about an hour before, to get things moving a little.  After that, I still feel the need to go to the bathroom about 45 minutes into my run, but it's easier to control the urge.

    • CommentAuthorDuvelke
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2008
     
    Duvelke

    Hi,

    thanks for your advice everybody.

    Till now i never drunk during my training, but now i will train more than 1 hour (and warmer weather coming soon) i know i've to learn this, to avoid deshydratation.
    I read that you better drink small bits to avoid the dashing in the stomach and that sportdrinks absorb faster than water

    Concerning my bowels : i used to be rather constipated (going to the bathroom on demand, just before the run isn't that easy), but training two times / week "helped" me + my daily fruit.

    With your advices and those in the article cpcrouce sent me, i'l make me a personnal diet or foodprogram. I'll let you know my experiences.

    I've got 3 weeks to experiment, isn't it? 

    Thanks,

    Nancy

    • CommentAuthordidi7482
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2008
     
    didi7482

    Hi Nancy,

    I've had very similar problems this past year, and often it did not even take a full hour before my stomach started to feel funny and then I would have to race to the restroom.  After a helpful tip from my doctor, I cut out a lot of dairy, especially on the days that I run, but also the night before.  It turns out that I was mildly lactose intolerant and my usual bowl of cheerios in the morning before I set out for a jog was leading to serious problems.   I'm a cheese lover, so I haven't been able to eliminate dairy completely, and on normal days it does not give me problems, but I've found that if I stick to a bagel or oatmeal for breakfast I can complete my run without any problems!

     Hope you figure it out, good luck in your race!

     

    • CommentAuthorkennobbs
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2008
     
    kennobbs
    I have a friend who has run many marathons and a few of the Comrades ultra marathons (90km).  He told me early on in my training to have small amounts of fluid consistently every 15-20 minutes.  I've found that 20 minutes is ideal for me and just have a couple of sips of water (I wear a hydration pack for runs of 90 minutes or more or go a route where I know where water taps are).  The secret seems to be keeping to around this timeframe and not having too much.  When you get use to it you know how much to drink and you don't get the bloating or sick feeling from putting too much into your stomach.
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    celtic1234
    I had problems before when i used to use energy gels-it stopped whne i cut out using them
    • CommentAuthorelanuto
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2008
     
    elanuto
    Try adding nutmeg to your food before you run.  Or you can buy empty capsules and fill with bulk nutmeg (1 to 2 per day).  It binds your intestines.  A friend had part of his colon removed and had major diareah.  this was the only thing that worked for him.
    • CommentAuthorJillyK
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2008
     
    JillyK

    Hi Nancy,

    I've had this problem before too, and although I thought it might be something like too much fibre or dairy, what I found was that it was simple dehydration.  I run early in the morning and so I haven't had any fluid for usually 8-10 hours. Try drinking a glass of water as soon as you get up, and drink throughout your run as you have mentioned that you will try.

    Hope it helps!

     

    • CommentAuthorCrazyJ
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2008
     
    CrazyJ
    You all should come train with our group, Team Challenge.  We are running and raising funds for the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation!  We make sure to include lots of bathrooms in all of our routes, and have the race directors double the number of port-a-potties on the day of the half marathon!
    • CommentAuthorsassycat
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2008
     
    sassycat
    i suffer from this unfortunate condition , (its a pain in ass really ) and when it hit me the 1st time i felt truely embarrassed was with a mate , talk about red faced , well i researched this online and found there is a condition called 'joggers trotts' and about 40% of runner do suffer from this , mainly just to make sure there r sufficent toilets available on ur routes, i am running a 10k on monday 5th hopefully i can get round without to many problems as there r not to many toilets apart from the beginnning, though the guys that added their comment on the trotts said that on race days they apprentley didnt suffer i do hope i am one of the lucky one.
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    RunningGinsberg
    I cannot imagine a true distance runner who does not or has not experienced this condition.  Muscle fatigue, shin splits, and the occasional stomach problem come along with running just as your problem, its all part of the activity (I really don't want to say experience because that would sound a little sick).  I feel that no matter what you do with your diet, near the hour mark of a long run your body is in a whole different state, so your body is not worried about maintaining a regular bowel movement.  I always felt the main cause was diet, but that is the diet you need to have to be healthy runner. It is the simple strain of the workout and the natural stress on your muscles that works itself into the rest of your body.  Your at such an extreme when you come near that potential of physical endurance that the rest of your body will follow that extreme.  All I do is run near places that have easily accessible bathrooms like fastfood restaurants or pack a little toilet paper in a fuel belt, when it comes to that point you go and then keep running.