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    • CommentAuthoralliyo
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008
     
    alliyo

    hi guys,

     so i've been trying very hard to get into running, It's been about a year and a half and I've participated in two 5K's, i've never ran more than 4.5 miles though. my endurance seems to get the best of me at about mile 3, I really want to pursue this as it's an incredible way to keep fit. Does anyone have any tips to up the ante some? 

    Appreciate it much, this is a GREAT website !!

     Alliyo

    • CommentAuthormimig1027
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2008
     
    mimig1027

    When you start increasing your mileage, switch back to doing intervals of walking and running. I usually do 3-5 minutes running, the 1-2 minutes walking, then repeat for the distance. When I do a longer run, especially if it's a long distance I've never done, I don't worry about my time, but just acomplishing the distance. Early on I found it took a lot of discipline to stop running after 4 minutes and take my 1 minute walking break. I thought, "If I can run 3 miles the whole way, why stop when I'm not exhausted?" But I found that I felt better after my first 5 mile run doing the intervals, than after pushing a 4 miler running the whole way. You will also decrease your chance for injury by giving your muscles time to recover in your runs.

    Also, don't forget to stretch afterwards, drink lots of water, maybe a little sports drink, and eat something within half an hour after running. It will make the next day that much more compfortable. Also, don't push it too hard. If you do a long run on Sunday, take Monday off completely or do something gentle on your legs (swimming, maybe some yoga).  Rest days are just as important as running days, do not neglect them. 

     There are a couple of great books on indurance running that take a fairly laid back approach that I appricate. One is Marathoning for Mortals, by John Bingham and Jenny Hadfield. The other I'd recommend is Galloway's Book on Running by Jeff Galloway. He advocates running with walking recoveries; he developed a style of training called the Galloway Method. 

    • CommentAuthoralliyo
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2008
     
    alliyo

    thanks much mimig for the stellar advice. I plan on going out tomorrow for a 'long ' run ( long for me i suppose ) i will take your words to use and report back after the fact .

     Cheers and have a great Friday!

     alliyo

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    • CommentAuthorhatck
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2008
     
    hatck

    The most important thing is to keep at it. Figure out a schedule, know which days you'll be running (e.g. every mon, wed, fri) and which days you'll be resting. Drink some water before running (but not too much or it'll cause cramps). I know a lot of people who listen to music when running, it helps keep them motivated.

    The best thing to do is keep strong. Every time you run, really try to improve over your last day's work. That might mean, taking less breaks, going longer without breaks. Stay motivated and good luck with your runs!

    • CommentAuthorbrandyland
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2008
     
    brandyland

    I agree with mimig about the walking bit.  I recently read another great book by Stu Mittleman called "Slow Burn".  He advocated using a heart rate monitor and going for distance not time.  As you get conditioned your time will improve in said distance and you will have more energy than a forced run out of a good target heart rate zone.  If you have to walk part of this time then so be it.....you will eventually improve.

    Have been trying to follow his advice (incorporated with lots of stuff from this website...it is awesome) and have seen great improvements.  In the last several months I have gone to 7-9 miles a week to 21-25 a week and hope to keep improving so that maybe a half marathon/marathon can be in my future.

    Soo, keep at it and take it easy and have fun!!  That is the most important part is enjoying yourself so that you keep going.

  1.  
    aussiebloke

    two words - interval training

    I was in the same situation as you where my limit was around the 4-6 km mark - after reading a lot of research into building endurace i found that interval training was much much better at improving endurance than trying to work at lower intensity. This is not just my opinion it is proven by the american college of sports medicine - the most respected organisation for sports research in the world. Late last year after about 4km i was ready to die. Over the first 6 months of this year i interval ran (10 x 100m sprints at 95-100% intensity with 10 x 100m walks in between) with a 500m jog either side to warm up/cool down 2-3 times a week. I lost 10kg (i was not overweight before but my body fat is now 8%) And recently to test my theory i went for a long run - after 16km i decided to stop cos i was running late for an appointment. This was 10km further than i had ever run!!!.

  2.  
    Harbourboy

    I agree with the references to John Bingham and Jeff Galloway.  Those guys are great for showing that there is no shame in taking walking breaks, and that for many of us, walking breaks can lead to faster times overall, strange though that may seem.

     Whenever I up the length of my 'long run', I will always end up walking part of it the first few times.

     So I recommend scheduling in a 6km run, say, but walk as much of it as you feel you need to.  Now your training log has a 6km entry in it!  Knowing that you just covered 6km makes covering 4km seem so much easier.

    • CommentAuthorlewydump
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008
     
    lewydump
    i'll not solve your problem, but give you something to think about. i mainly run cross country marathons/fell runs and further, so a lot of my training runs before races are between 20-30miles and can  last 5 hours. i find that the thing that makes me get through without stopping is just me, telling me that i will not stop! hope it doesn't sound too pompous, but it's a state of mind worth developing. i don't know any books or techniques to help you attain it , but next time you feel like stopping, just get angry with yourself and keep those legs moving - doesn't matter how slowly, just not walking. eventually it'll be second nature...
    • CommentAuthormkass
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    mkass

    Pick a day per week and just do long runs (along with intervals on the other days).  Stop and walk if you have to but keep moving!  Don't stop moving!  My personal opinion as a competitive runner is to not walk, but keep the jogging motion no matter how slow you're going.  Be able to talk to a friend the entire time.  But this might be one of those things that just boils down to personal preference.

     

    Cross training (as in on a bike) can help too.  It also keeps things interesting and keeps you motivated. 

    • CommentAuthorKGBIII
    • CommentTime3 days ago
     
    KGBIII

    This is an interesting conversation to me, because I just finished a 5k race.  I did well (for me).  I PRed.  Finished with a time of 27mins 10secs.  Prior to the race my PR was 28mins. 

     I'd trained for this race by running longer runs (4 and 6 mile routes) at a slower pace and doing shorter runs (2 and 3 mile routes) at a faster pace.  It seemed to work because I steadily improved.  (When I began I was running 3 miles in 35 minutes and by the time of the race was doing 3 miles in 28mins.)

     But, a strange thing has happened.  Now that the race is over, I'm having trouble completeing my long runs.  The last two times I tried running 6 miles, I ended up walking large portions of my run.  It's like my endurance base is shot after the race.  I don't get it.  It seems like, similar to alliyo, I'm stuck at three miles.

     I'm going to keep at it, but, I have to say, it's a little discouraging.

  3.  
    ericjacquie
    Just keep running (it's a mind thing).  Do not walk - it becomes harder to start running when you stop to walk.  One thing that worked for me was to compete in a half marathon.  I only ran up to 6 miles and my first race was a 1/2.  Running amongst so many people forced me to continue running.  It did work.  My only problem is that because I am running longer distances my time is much slower, even for my half marathon.  I am now incorporating speed work-out and hopefully I will reduce my time on my full and half marathon.
  4.  
    conardwrestler12
    I'd say don't walk. It might be hard, but stopping during a run makes your heart rate drop pretty dramatically effectively losing a lot of the work you've done. I'm no professional, but thats what I think. The only other thing is not to increase your mileage too quickly. 10% increase a week is considered the max.