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    funkylemonc

    So I got a new pair of nice New Balance's in the middle of July and I've put about 320 miles on them so far.  For the past week and a half or so, my right knee and the in-step of my feet have had a decent amount of soreness/pain after a run and I've had to scale back my miles per week from around 30+ to around 20.  Runs over 4.5 miles start to really wear on me when I usually churn out 8-11 miles with a decent amount of ease.  They're definitely starting to feel a little less cushioned.  Is this a pretty good indication that I need a new pair of shoes?  Thanks.

    -Dan

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberborntocry
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2008
     
    borntocry
    Yes.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberCptnRon
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2008
     
    CptnRon
    yes
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdbikekc01
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2008 edited
     
    dbikekc01

    Dan,

    I've read that how long a shoe will last is somewhat proportionate to your weight.  Heavier runners should expect about 300 miles or less and lighter runners about 600 miles.  I would submit that the quality of the shoe affects these distances greatly as well.  I consider myself in the heavier category and only have around 200 miles on a pair I purchased in May.  The cushion seems to be waining some, but is still adequate to give me a decent runs.  However, the right heel is missing some of the rubber, so I'm at the end-of-life on this pair. 

    Since your performance and comfort are being affected, it is time to get a new pair, but keep the old pair for a week or two and try alternating between the new and old.  This will tell you right away if it was the shoes or something else.

     HTH,

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberliltif7
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2008
     
    liltif7
    I agree with HTH, and would also like to add, that as time goes on, you may need additional support in the shoes you do wear.  I recently had an extensive fitting at a reputable running store, and found that my needs have changed since I started running ten years ago.  I recommend going to a really good running store and have someone who knows running fit you.....its worth the time.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrogerbum
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     
    rogerbum
    Also, you should own at least 2 pairs of good shoes and you should alternate between them.  E.g. don't use the same pair every day.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membergfriese
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     
    gfriese
    If you have to ask the question. they are.
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    rebeloutionary
    Why do you need to alternate between 2 pairs of shoes, rogerbum? Isn't one enough?
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    apple123456
    When you alternate between shoes, you give them a "rest" to recover, after constant pounding, to their original shape. They will both last longer than if you bought two pairs and used the pair A every day and when they wore out used pair B. Alternate them daily (if you go for daily runs) (ie. Pair A Monday, pair B Tuesday, etc.) to get the most useful likfe out of them.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbgrayz1
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    bgrayz1
    I like to use my old shoes that reach the 400 mark for interval and tempo runs... My newer shoes I use for long runs....
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrunspotrun
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2008
     
    runspotrun

    alternating between 2 different pairs of shoes also changes your biomechanics slightly. this can help to prevent over-use injuries as well as letting the shoes "recover"

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbananas78
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2008
     
    bananas78

    A good tip is too put the date you brought them with a marker, When 4-6 months is up, change them for a new pair.

    They say most trainers are good for 500 miles, also if you are buying a new pair dont worry about getting the same model, I loved my new balance 854 and kept buying them, until they disappeared

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberDuvelke
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2008
     
    Duvelke

     

    @ rebeloutionary :

     if you alternate between different pairs , you will feel the difference faster between  the "used" ones and the new. You will find out yourself if you need to change / to buy new...

     greetings,
    Nancy

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberbhbrtn
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2008
     
    bhbrtn

    I use my 400+ mile shoes for short easy/recovery runs and have set aside a pair to add sheet metal screws for running on ice/snow.

     Ben

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpeteypt
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
     
    peteypt

    Try the twist test. Simply grab the ends of your shoe and twist it. If they twist easy in the middle then the midsole is worn out and its time for new shoes.

    I use that, the presence of a new ache in the legs, and >300 miles.

    Pete

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    bballnick219
    I use one pair of sneakers per a season
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberLostsheep
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2009
     
    Lostsheep

    I'm lucky to get 300mi on a pair. I'm pretty hard on my shoes and put a good pounding on them too. I have learned the 2shoe plan and personally it works pretty good to me.

    Both are the exact same shoe, just different colors. I alternate throughout the week and try to equal the mileage on them. Keeps them from stinking so bad, from wearing out so fast, and makes them actually last a little longer (well seem to at least).

    But, if your feet are starting to hurt from runs, then yes, it's time for some new shoes.

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    dwillis5090

    I am 6 feet tall and weigh about 170 lbs.  I seem to go through shoes in less than 150 miles.  I've tried various brands.  Brooks, Asics, Reebok, and Nike.  I under pronate and run on the balls of my feet.  I run 15-20 miles a week.  Any ideas why I am going through shoes so quickly?  Every time I go to a "good" running store, the clerk tells me "this" brand will last longer, but they never do.

     Don

    • CommentAuthorFree Membertzapata
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2009
     
    tzapata

    i'm 6' tall, weigh 195ish, and run on the balls of my feet.  after 200 miles, i start to notice a difference in my shoes, by 250 i can tell they're on the way out, and at 300, retire them to 'walking around' duty. 

    i run in the asics gel 1140s, and have been primarily running in themand their predecessors for the past 10 years or so.  they're pretty basic, and fairly durable.  i also can't get them in the good running stores cos they're too basic, as all the more expensive shoes stuff their heels with cusioning and such that are useless to me.  

    i should clarify that "by notice a difference" above, i refer to the feel of the cushioning.  after 200 miles, they feel a litle... flatter... like they absorb impacts just a little less readily.  by 300 miles, i feel more beat up after a run than i do when the shoes are new, although outwardly, the shoes look pretty much fine.  

    i think my question to dwillis would be what do you mean by "go through"?  also, are you buying lightweight racing trainers (liek the asics DS trainer), or regular trainers - the asics nimbus, perhaps?  the lightweight shoes won't last as long, especially since they sacrifice the forefoot cushioning the most, i think.

    finally, do you run in the rain or through puddles, and subsequently toss the shoes in the clothes dryer?  that'll break down your shoes lickety-split! 

     

    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipkingmoyer
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2009
     
    kingmoyer

    I go though four stages on my shoes and so keep four pair in play at all times.

    1) New shoes. They get the lions share of the work...LSD, fartlek, anything over four miles. This is their glory years

    2) mid life shoes. once they reach 250 miles or so they become semi retired and are only used for short workouts <four miles. Still good shoes but not good for the heavy lifting.

    3) retired shoes. these shoes are usually over 350 miles but still are good enough for the gym or a bike ride. They may make a trip to the store, or take a walk through the old neighborhood, but only walking now.

    4) deathbed shoes. The end is near...these shoes have served me well and now have been demoted to rat around duty. They are now longer presentable in public and so get used for painting, lawnmowing, or other household chores. The also get used in bad weather situations where they may become mud covered and/or wet.

    When I buy a new pair everybody moves down one and the deathbed shoes get donated to charity (if they are still suitable), or a farewell prayer is said as I put them down...it's not pretty but it's the right thing to do.

    happy running - stephen         

     

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